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Empire State of Draft Mind | Giants & Jets Rookie Breakdown
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This episode was a full deep dive into the New York Giants and New York Jets draft classes as we broke down every major selection with detailed film analysis, scouting insight, and honest reactions to how each pick fits their team’s identity and future, diving into each player’s background, college journey, strengths, weaknesses, and long term potential while debating who could become an instant impact rookie, who might need time to develop, and which selections could ultimately define the future of New York football, making for one of our most in depth and entertaining draft breakdowns yet.
Welcome back to another edition of Ari Squared. We are your hosts, Ari Lev and Ari Berkowitz coming to you live on a Thursday. And Ari, it is always a pleasure to be recording with you. And as the diehard Giants and Jets fans that we are, we are going to do a full draft, or rather, full Giants and Jets draft recap today, including breaking down some film on our selected players. It's going to be really cool to do this with you, Ari. I'm very excited for us to go ahead and you know get this going. And uh you've done a lot of uh, you know, I gotta give you props. You've put a lot of effort into making sure that all the film is ready for us to review together. So very excited to do that. So, all right, before we jump on into the film review, how are you doing?
SPEAKER_01Oh, I'm pretty good. Um, I I it's my tradition that right in the aftermath of the draft, I uh watch all of the 2020, like the previous season's film on all of the guys that the Jets drafted and try to reach my own conclusions without reading anyone else's uh thoughts. So that basically helped me understand and also give me a pretty good uh ability to to do this together. Um, and I'm just very curious to start off. You know, I know that you're big into uh the analysis as well. So to start us off, Ari, what do you what do you feel like is your best you know take on Arville Reese?
SPEAKER_00So to me, it's very important to point out, you know, all these people, including Malik neighbors, were like, oh, what are we doing? Why are we drafting another edge player? And it's like, no, can he play the edge? Sure, but the dude literally lined up for like 0.6% of his snaps last year at edge. He is an off the ball linebacker where he absolutely excels with his combo of side and speed, and let's also not forget the dude's only 20 years old, he's not even going to be 21 until I believe September. So he's has the ability, his frame is already in like in the 250s. He could easily add like another 10 pounds on top of that and be an absolute thumper. He's got incredible sideline to sideline speed, he is an incredible tackler, and between him and Kremade Edmonds in the middle, they're simply gonna improve our run game incredibly, and so I'm super excited to have him. I'm still in shock that he fell to us at number five. And while you know, for anybody who used to who listened to our uh podcast knows I wanted Sonny Styles. The fact that we got our Val Reese, oh hell yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, absolutely. And and just to clarify, you said incredible tickler or tackler.
SPEAKER_00That's the tackler, tackler.
SPEAKER_01I see, I see, because I I wasn't sure how you would know that he would be a good or bad tickler. So I was just a little curious about that one. What happens at the draft stays at the draft, just say oh oh I I hear, I hear, but but yeah, I I I totally agree. And uh when it comes to Arvell Reese uh as an off-ball linebacker, I mean he played, you know, the thing about Ohio State's defense is they run things that don't necessarily work uh in the NFL, and it's perfect for the college game, where they really take advantage of the wider hash marks. Um, and so basically having a guy like Arvell Reese who could literally start on one end of the formation and can close on the quarterback or running back faster than anyone on the other side of the formation, is unbelievable. One of his main jobs was to spy on quarterbacks if you watch him against Indiana. Uh, he basically didn't let uh Mendoza get anywhere out of the pocket. Uh it was absolutely just clamped that down. He is for his age, it's remarkable, but he is, to my mind, one of the most aware NFL defensive players to come out of the draft in a while. Like it's it's a it's a Luke Heekly level awareness that when he's playing. And my own my main question with Rvel Reese is how how do you basically manage the fact that he could be uh genuinely a top five uh pass rusher in the NFL at some point soon versus the fact that he is so capable lining up almost anywhere in the front seven of a formation? He he's had he takes snaps where he's literally facing off against guards, and then he literally drops back into coverage and and and you know handles slot receivers and tight ends. So the fact that he is that versatile of a chess piece, it really comes down to again, because he's so young and he has so much unlocked potential, how much do you kind of go with what he's capable of doing now versus building him up for the future? That that's like for that to be a question mark of like what to do with the player, it just speaks to the level of talent of this player.
SPEAKER_00So, what I think is cool about him is this is that I would play to his strengths. So, right now, play him off ball. Certainly, you will have packages that and and and you know, Denard Wilson is definitely set up to do this, and he's spoken about it. You know, he said one of the things most importantly about our defense this year is gonna be we want to be unpredictable, and so I would play to Arvel Reese's strengths, which is let him be off ball. Yeah, are there gonna be certain um plays where I have him come up to the line and he'll stand up? I don't see him putting his hand in the dirt per se, um, but stand him up on the line and have him rush or drop back into coverage. Yeah, play to that now. The Giants, thankfully, we have a you know a wealth of talent at the edge position. So we don't even need to rush him in there. We can slowly but surely build up that skill set and possibly transition him over to the edge. But quite frankly, right now he is so much more valuable playing off ball for us, given our plethora of talent at the edge position, that I'd rather keep him there. Again, let him rush, not a problem. But I would rather have him shoring up the run game from the off-ball position, have a tackling machine off the line, and we'll let Brian Burns, Thibodeau, Abdul Carter, we'll let them go to work of rushing off of the edge. But to me, I would of course develop him as an edge rusher, but right now there's no rush, there's no need. Let's let him play to his strings.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and absolutely, and and just think about the kind of weapon that he'd be against the Eagles with Jalen Hurts, his ability to just keep him in the pocket and one place would literally have the Eagles coming up with a completely different game plan. So I just want to quickly get into uh as as I think all of our listeners know, I was uh you know in the camp of Arvell Reese over David Bailey, and I just want to show why I saw that on film. So I'm going to share my screen here and I'm gonna show you uh a couple plays from uh Arvell Reese in order to pretty much bring to the fore what I like about Arvell Reese more than uh David Bailey per se. So one second. All right, let's see it. Break it down for us, sorry.
SPEAKER_00All right, let's get this pinned. All right, we are referring to Ohio State playing against Penn State in game eight of the season.
SPEAKER_01So, yeah, so basically, um when it comes down to it, um, I wanted to specifically show Arvel Reese as a pass rusher, uh, just to bring the most possible uh overlap with David Bailey. So I'm I'm going to run the tape here. And as we can see, we have Arvel Reese coming off the edge, and this move right here, where he just moves right past the the tackle. Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna play that again. Not sure why the feed is a little bit choppy, but basically you see him here, and now he's positioning and he's basically moving himself clearly for an outs uh outside move, getting the lineman to overset here, and then he dips his shoulder and is able to just blow right by him. And what is impressive to me about Arvell Reese, which again is the reason why I had him over David Bailey, is the fact that he closes this angle, something that I refer to and many people refer to as bend, in a way that only the most elite pass rushers in the NFL are able to do. And basically, I don't know what's happening here when technology fails you.
SPEAKER_00Okay, I guess uh I mean you can see just the way he made an absolute fool out of the left tackle, and even no, you could see the left tackle knew that that move was coming, but to be able to, like you said, the bend and anticipation and just the way he just really just closed at the incredible speed that he did is just unreal. Yeah, look, with respect to the Penn State QB, he is not you know the NFL talent that even the worst of starters in the NFL have. Um, but at the end of the day, um, at the end of the day, still what he did was impressive. And look, just to kind of you know button up Arvell Reese, and then we'll move on to David Bailey. When all said and done, there's no dispute here. The dude can rush the passer as well as anyone else. All I'm saying is that at the next level in the NFL, and this is you know, Joe Shane and Harbour were very clear on this, they are going to play him off ball with packages that have him off the edge, but let's let him play to his many other strengths, which are being an absolute tackling machine, able ability to go sideline to sideline, and just the guy does not miss tackles in the open field. So we're gonna play him well there, which will certainly you know serve us well um in the in the run game. And yeah, when it's third and long and our pass rushers can just pin their ears back and go, oh yeah, bring them up in like a NASCAR package up on the line with Carter, with Burns, with Thibodeau. Good luck to all of our opponents because you ain't gonna stop them all.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so uh just like uh just to get back to what I was saying for a second is that basically if you can see here, okay, the amount of distance between Reese and the quarterback right here is a solid four yards, and he's able to get on the quarterback within a step and a half, like basically what wouldn't even be considered a travel in the NBA, and then oh wow, so and then he's he's on him in a step and a half. So, like that's the kind of bend, uh, veracity and speed that R. Vel Reese brings, and it's just a completely different play style than someone like David Bailey. Where here you can see David Bailey, he's facing off against the Steelers uh first round pick here, Max Ienicher. And Bailey does it in a completely different way. So Bailey here sets up, all right, and his his entire game here is all about hands and feet working together. So you see the first thing that he does is he gets one hand right in the middle of the left of the right tackle here, and he's already playing off of the fact that he's not letting the tackle set up. Now he's going to quickly go with the over arm bar move and then rip underneath him. So you see that right there, and he's just immediately past the right tackle. So, in one instance, using both his hand technique and his feet, he's passed him now, and this is the difference between him and David Bailey. Uh, sorry, him and Arvell Reese, rather. You'll see that he's a little bit further, but pretty much a similar distance to quarterback. And look at how many steps he has to take in order to get to the quarterback, and he misses the sack there. So he does collapse the pocket, right? And he does a phenomenal job with his technique, but he didn't get to the quarterback because he doesn't have that bend that Arvell Reese has. That's the reason why I had Arvell Reese ranked ahead of David Bailey. But again, Arvell Reese does not have the toolkit that David Bailey has to get past really, really good tackles already at an NFL level where he's able to use leverage, his arm length and his foot uh and his technique in order to do that. So that's basically the breakdown in my mind of Arvell Reese versus David Bailey, their strengths and um you know what they may not do as well as others.
SPEAKER_00Well, all right, there was a great breakdown, and I'll say this as well is that people were really trying to really, really compare apples to apples between Bailey and between Arvell Reese. And the truth is, is that as much as they both play on the line, they're not quite exactly the same player. And what I mean by that is Bailey, we knew coming in, and I think this is ultimately why the Jets went with Bailey over Arvell Reese, is when you're talking about getting, you know, being on the on the line, be you know, playing in the edge position, and you're whether you're standing up or hand in the dirt, in terms of pure pass rusher, David Bailey is the more skilled pure pass rusher as we stand and speak today, versus Arvell Reese, who has the better ability in coverage, which David Bailey does not, and off the ball, which again David Bailey does not. There, as much as they play a similar position, they don't quite exactly attack the same position or approach the same position as in the same way. So I think that's a good differentiation to have between the two players, and I understand when why the Jets, who wanted that true, pure pass rusher, why they ultimately went with Bailey over Arvell Reese. And yeah, quite frankly, I could not be happier that you did because I don't know if I would have taken Bailey at five. We probably that point would have taken either Sonny Styles or CeC Mawanoa. So I'm glad that the draft kind of played out this way, and I think at the end of the day, both the Giants and Jets got their defense got significantly better with our first picks in the first round.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's that's a great point. And um, I I couldn't I couldn't agree with you more, Ari. And and the fact that you brought up Maui Noah, what why don't you go into what you think about Maui Noah and what he brings to the Giants and also where where he's gonna play to start off?
SPEAKER_00All right, so he's without a question, he's gonna start out at right at right guard. There's no question that some of the best guards in the NFL started out as tackles in the in in college. Now, I'm not saying that you can translate from having been a great tackle in college to then being able to be a great tackle in the NFL, and I'm also not saying that you can't be a pure guard coming out of college and being a great guard in in uh in the NFL. With that being said, um Sisi Mawanoa is going to absolutely light it up at right guard. I do believe that he has the potential to be an all-pro guard. And while if he does bump out the tackle, I'm not saying he can't get to that level, but he'll probably be a really good tackle in the NFL versus a all-pro guard in the NFL. I mean, he is guys of that size should not be able to move the way he does. And he is an absolute baller, lunch pail type of guy, you know, comes to work every day. Soon as he gets drafted, he says that he will literally die for Jackson Dart. And to me, one of the best plays that CC Mawanoah had was when he had a big man touchdown, and um they basically set up a quick screen to him in the backfield across the field, and he ran it in in the agility that he ran it in. The guy looked more like a very large tight end or a ginormous running back, more so than an offensive tackle. And I love his style of play. He is mean, he is gonna play bully ball, he is going to absolutely destroy anybody coming in front of him, and I gotta tell you, I am salivating at the thought of having the following happen on the field at the same time. Can you imagine Cam Scatabou running behind Cece Maui Noah with Ricard paving the way in front of behind him? And watch out! Like, I can already see the 50-yard touchdown with Cece Maui Noah and Ricard keeping pace with Scataboo down the field, just absolutely destroying anybody getting in their way. So I am super excited about this pick. I do believe it's for everybody's like, oh no, they should have taken Caleb Downs. You know, my daughter Every Ga was actually at Hudson Yards at the Giants draft party, and she literally sent me a video of when they got to the 10th pick. They announced that they picked Cece Mawanoa, and the crowd booed. They booed. And I'm sorry, and respectfully to any of the booers in the crowd, you're all a bunch of morons. Because getting CC Mawanoa, who is going to be an absolute all-pro guard, who has the ability once Germaine Illuminor um is you know contract is up, assuming that we don't resign him. Could he bounce out to right tackle? Of course. But to me, let's keep him a guard. He's gonna be an absolute beast for the next decade, if not more. And I am super stoked for our pick, and he is gonna be lights freaking out, and he is just an absolute bully, and the bully ball, old school, old-fashioned kind of running game that Harbo wants to bring back. Nobody better than to bring that than CC Maui Noah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and and one of the most noteworthy things to me, look as an out uh an outside viewer looking into the Giants draft is both Maui Noah as well as Arville Reese have their roles that they're going to play this season, as well as to grow into later down the road, as in Reese moving to edge possibly, and Maui Noah bouncing to the outside possibly. So that's what I find uh very interesting. Um, it really signals a shift in where the Giants are at as a franchise, and that they're you know as concerned with winning this season as they are with the future, where the Jets I think are concerned with I think raising the floor uh very much so, but also clearly building a very strong foundation for the future. And the next two picks that they made, Kenyan Sadiq and Omar Cooper Jr. both really speak to that. Um, something that people may not know about Kenyan Sadiq is that he's a sad exactly. That that is that is part of it. Yes, yes, he definitely and he wears number 18, by the way. So that that that all works. Um and Kenyan Sadiq, uh, as opposed to the vast majority of first round tight ends that come out and are you know lauded for their playmaking ability and their pass catching threat down the field and movable chess piece, they could play outside, they could play inside, they could play on the line, they could play slot, so on and so forth. Kenyan Sadiq is a day one impact blocker at tight end. There is there are zero players in the NFL, uh, maybe in NFL history that have that skill set. Um, they want to compare they wanted to compare him to Vernon Davis because he's the the only other tight end ever to run what Sadiq Vernon Davis came out of Utah, he did not know how to block. Okay, Kenyon Sadiq, the closest comp in the NFL now, is some kind of combination between Kyle Yuzchek and Chig Okonkwo. Like that's the closest thing that you can compare him to because of how much of an impact blocker he has. Now, the thing about Sadiq is there are a lot of rough, rougher areas to his game. Would I have said, you know, oh, at 16, let's definitely pick Kenyan Sadiq. No, I probably would have picked Mikhail Lemon. That being said, what Kenyan Sadiq does bring to the table is unbelievable ability to basically run your offense in a lot of run fits and pass the ball out of that, which is something that the Jets have struggled with basically my entire life. They've not been able to do that. And so clearly, when it's a run situation, everyone knows they're running the ball. And sometimes, you know, with Rex Ryan, it would work anyway, but it's a nice thing to have. And again, his potential is through the roof. Like to me, Kenyan Sadiq is the offensive equivalent to Arvel Reese, meaning he's only scratching his uh the surface of what he's capable of doing. And uh we'll see, you know, sometimes these guys turn into uh superstars, sometimes they're just very, very serviceable players who have a long career, but because he does the little things, I think he really has staying power in the NFL and can impact from day one, given his abilities as a blocker.
SPEAKER_00I think that Kenyon Sadiq is gonna be a and I first of all I agree with your analysis. I think Kenyon Sadiq is gonna become, um, at least for this season, Geno Smith, um, or theoretically Russell Wilson. Um, I truly hope for you, Ari, that uh that uh Russell Wilson ends up going into um you know broadcasting and replacing Matt Ryan, which he has weighing his option, as opposed to backing up um Geno Smith for you guys, because you don't want Russell Wilson getting in there. But getting back to um to Kenyon Sidi, I think he's gonna become an absolute security blanket. I think that given his blocking abilities, he's gonna come in right now and he already gives you an extra lineman on the field every play. But not only are you getting an extra lineman out of him on every play, he could so just slip out, boom, hit set the block, hold it for like a second, and then just pop out, and he almost becomes another weapon in the screen game beyond just normally what you would do in those kind of bubble screens with running backs. You could absolutely do that with Kenyon Sadiq. And then when he's not playing as a blocker, you can line him up in the slot, you can line him up in the X, and you can probably even line him up in the Y for that matter, and he'll be able to really line up all over the field. He'll create mismatches at every you know, it doesn't matter who he's lining up against, he's a mismatch with the corners, he's a mismatch with the safeties, he's a mismatch with the linebackers, and not to mention that he's gonna be able to with his you know size and strength, um, he's gonna be able to hold his own on blocks you know against uh edge players. So I think that when all said and done, I think that um it's gonna be really good to see um what he's able to do. So let's transition on on that. Let's transition over to your next first round pick.
SPEAKER_01Yes, absolutely. And the Jets drafted Omar Cooper Jr. trading back into the first round at 30th overall. Um, there are some rumors that if Sadiq wasn't there at 16, which I think I did not think was going to happen, I had Sadiq going to the Rams at 13. We all know what they did there, and um, they were gonna pick Cooper, and they ended up with Cooper at the end of the first round. Cooper is a very uh interesting case because basically everyone knows about his catch uh against Penn State um and and how ridiculous that was. But but really when you when you go under the hood with uh Cooper, not to not to give any previews for what's gonna happen next, sorry, but when you when you when you go under the hood with Omar Cooper Jr., you realize a few things. The first is that his first two years at Indiana, he wasn't as successful playing on the outside, and basically playing with Mendoza and in the slot, he was completely unlocked. That's number one. And then the second thing is it's really a tale of two seasons for Cooper. In the first half of the season, he was like, okay, like a nice player. He would run those bubble screens, he would, you know, run like these simple concepts over the middle, and was kind of exactly what you were saying about Sadiq, uh, Mendoza's safety blanket, uh, security blanket. It was great. But then over the course of the second half, every single game, he basically started running routes, like not just running routes, he went from I'd say week seven to week eight, he was like a nothing route runner, and then by the end and into the playoffs, he was running complex route combinations, highlighted by his double moves in the Maryland game and one other game, and he just looked like a different guy. So if Omar Cooper Jr., which by the way, uh one a commonality with the Jets early pick specifically, is that they're very high character players and very smart, um, which is very different than uh the previous era, uh, with the Jets drafting a lot of uh Elijah Moore's and Denzel and Denzel Mims's and those kind of types. Um, and he's exact opposite again. Like Sadiq, I think he has a very high floor. I don't think he's ever going to be that superstar guy. Um, that being said, that exact model has broken out as a superstar lately, like whether it was Justin Jefferson, Puka Nakua, Cooper Cup, uh now with uh JSN. Like that model has broken out in the NFL. I don't think he's that level of player. What I do think is he's a really good second option um in all in most offenses and is a quarterback's best friend. The one thing that I would look at and say, uh I don't really know. Uh he has some drops that are a bit of a concern to me. Um, but overall at 30th, um, uh you you gotta like the direction again, where the Jets are going overall organizationally. Ari, do you have anything to add or do you want to go right into hood?
SPEAKER_00No, no, no. I'll uh I do want to add something quickly about Omar uh Omar Cooper Jr. Uh first of all, I do think you guys got a great value pick. Uh getting, you know, coming back into the top of the into the back, sorry, end of the first round and grabbing him, I I think was a good, you know, good value. Um, I do believe that, like you said, the fact that he um was able to really build upon his game in the second half of the season does speak a lot to you know his capabilities. And I feel like that once he's able to develop more at the NFL level, he's gonna be a very strong wide receiver, too. In the right offense and potentially with Garrett Wilson, I would say is he does have, let's say, like the ceiling of maybe like T. Higgins with Jamar Chase type vibes, and if he can go ahead and ascend to that kind of level and be a T Higgins type player, uh again, I'm not comping between their size, blah, blah, blah, abilities, route running, yada, yada, yada. I'm talking about in terms of role versus the you know wide receiver one, like the Higgins to Chase. If he has the ability to come in and play that kind of role, I think you guys will have done very, very well.
SPEAKER_01So just because you brought up the comp, uh, I'll I'll give my comp for Omar Cooper Jr., I see him much more as an Emmanuel Sanders to uh Garrett Wilson's Antonio Brown. That's the style of game that Omar Cooper Jr. has. He doesn't have the vertical leaping ability, he's a very different player to T. Higgins, but conceptually, yes, I agree with you as that strong number two to a strong number one, but he's more of an Emmanuel Sanders type guy.
SPEAKER_00Agreed. By the way, and just to be clear, and then I'll move on to Hood. I was definitely again not playing style. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. Yeah, you wish he ends up playing as well as T. Higgins.
SPEAKER_01No, he's just not even the same kind of guy, like it would be so bizarre if he ends up like T. Higgins as like a 6'3 uh rebounder, you know. As what pretty wild well, he's like barely six-foot slot guy, so you know it would be a very strange, but yeah, that the second fiddle, the strong second fiddle is definitely the point here.
SPEAKER_00All right, so moving on to the Giants' next pick, Colton Hood. I'm gonna do his hoodie celly real quick, right? I'm gonna put on my hood and I'm gonna do his finger move. And I gotta tell you, I love his hoodie celly, it's fantastic. Um, let's talk about Colton Hood for a moment. So, number one, um, I love the fact, and by the way, even if McDonald had been there at 37 D-lineman, Ken McDonald, uh, we would have picked Colton Hood. I love this pick. He is a fantastic. Now, I know that in the Tennessee secondary, it was McCoy that got all the fanfare and all the hype and everything, but if you watch the way Colton Hood plays, dude, the bro plays nasty. He is a absolutely fierce, um, you know, one-on-one, press corner, get up on the line. And one of the things that's most impressive to me about his film is even on those times where he number one, he's great at anticipating where the wide receiver is going off the line to begin with. Even in those moments of where he initially got beat off the line, he number one, not only number one, not only catches up, but number two, he always gets his head back around. He is never in that flailing, like I'm still looking at the wide receiver, and then I get called for like you know, pass interference because I I don't know how to turn back around. The guy always gets his head back around, and he has great ball anticipation. He had a nice pick six as well in there, and he is going to be a phenomenal um outside corner, and he's gonna be he's gonna line up now. Can Newsom give him a run for his money in terms of playing the outside? I don't know. I don't think so. I don't think so. I think that it's Hood's job. I really do believe that Hood is going to just wow in training camp and in OTAs before that. And I do believe that um come game one of the season, I do believe we see Colton Hood playing as starting CB2 on the outside across from Pulse and Adebo. Um, it'll be a good problem to have to then be able to you know bring in Newsom to kind of play um, you know, when one of our corners needs like a minute off or a breather. Um, or um, if you know injury comes up, he'll be a great backup to have in there. Maybe he'll pop into the slot a little bit, but Colton Hood, hell yeah, bring it, baby. I am super excited at this pick. We got phenomenal value at pick 37. A lot of people had him going potentially in the end of the first round, and so I am so excited to have him as our pick and lining up in our secondary, hopefully for many years to come. Ari, quick thoughts on your end. So I mean 45 seconds.
SPEAKER_01Both Greg Newsome and Lidarius, uh, sorry, yes, uh, and uh Colton Hood are such uh uh John Harbour defensive back, like classic from the last 15 years of the Ravens. I mean, Colton Hood gives me such Lidarius, and that's why I said it before, Lidarius Webb vibes. Whereas like, okay, a guy who was drafted a little bit later, people are like, oh, he's undersized, maybe a little. He's a nasty press corner in that uh Harbaugh style defense that he likes to run. And they both like like uh Newsom gives me Dominic Foxworth vibes, um, and a Colton Hood gives me Ladarius Webb vibes, and a little bit of Jimmy Smith in there. It's just so classic Harbaugh, the way that he assembles his secondary. Um, and yeah, I I just totally agree with everything that you said. If he had run like a tick faster 40, he would have been in the first round.
SPEAKER_00Like that's and by the way, look at his game speed. The dude is regularly clocked. All right, forget what he did in the you know underwear Olympics. Look at his game speed, the dude runs much faster than what he actually ran at the at the 40 time at the combine.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, he he he they they basically what happened is Jermond McCoy missed the whole last season. Colton Hood replaced him, and Tennessee did not see any difference in what happened. So, you know, it's it's pretty clear that the guy is a special kind of corner in a specific style of defense that he was drafted into. You know, there's a reason he was a top 40 pick. All right, all right, let's move on over to the Jets next pick. Go ahead. Uh D'Angelo Pons. Okay, this this is one of my favorite guys in the entire draft. Um, I think that uh, you know, as press corners go, he is actually better than than Colton Hood. Um, and it's pretty remarkable every year there's guys that go that are about top 15 talent, and they go in the second round, sometimes even the third round, or with Jermaine McCoy, you saw early fourth round. Um, and it's just a question of why. And for D'Angelo Pons, everyone knows why he's he's barely 5'9. Okay. Um, the last time there was a cornerback who was successful outside as an outside corner, which is what Pons plays uh was years ago. It just doesn't happen anymore in the NFL. So on the one hand, you have a size uh uh profile that just doesn't exist in the NFL. On the other hand, you have uh two years of tape of the the dude being a top three corner in in college football, where in his in the first year starting in 2024, they attacked him and he destroyed them. And the second year starting this past year, they just went away from they wouldn't they wouldn't attack him. So the real question is just can he do this in the NFL? Um, can he face off against T Higgins? No, he I don't think so. I don't think he it would be smart to have him cover receivers that are 6'2 plus, but vast majority of teams have a smaller receiver and they're not looking for him to to you know immediately come in and start. So it's going to be very interesting. Um, the to the way that you know that this kind of develops, but there is no question that when it comes to pure play skill, uh D'Angelo Pons should have been a top 15 uh pick in the NFL draft. That being said, there's also a reason he went 50th overall. The dude is small for a corner, they're gonna try to move him inside, he'll play you know, back up outside, he'll compete on the inside day one. Um, we'll see. We'll see what happens. But um what a fantastic, uh phenomenal player to draft at 50th overall in the draft.
SPEAKER_00So my take is this. First of all, I agree with you, and I actually think that if we're we leave his size out for a moment, I agree. Probably the best corner skill-wise, leaving size out in this draft.
SPEAKER_01Monsour Delane, I would still have okay.
SPEAKER_00Fine, fair, fine, fine. Second to Monsor Delane, agreed. The thing is, this is that if you look at his tape, he's not a slot guy, and you can't you can't put him in his slot corner. He's actually too small to play inside, he'll get destroyed by running backs and by tight ends playing inside.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, he has to be a matchup guy, like uh, you know, specifically uh against certain teams. Like, for example, he would be phenomenal covering someone like JSN. That's the kind of thing that you would look at um for the NFL. Obviously, JSN to where he is right now in his NFL career. Um, he's you know, the best receiver in the NFL, arguably. I'm just saying that kind of profile of a player where you want him facing off against JSN, against Chris Olave, but not against T Higgins, not against uh, you know, someone some of the larger DK Metcalf style receivers.
SPEAKER_00I actually think I'll just I'll just say this. I actually think that he's gonna do he's gonna fare better on the outside than than you think. Um, even against the bigger corners, yeah. Are they can they potentially moss him? Sure, they can, but at the same time, I do believe, like, let's take Cordell Flot, right? Who was with the Giants just signed with the Titans? Well, the dude is taller, okay, he is 6'2, he actually weighs less than um than Pons does. So you can play, and Cordell Flott was great, and so you can play when all said and done, you can play on the outside at a lighter weight, and I actually think that he'll do better on the outside and needs to stay on the outside. They'll get him into the weight room. Maybe if they're lucky, add five pounds to him, if they're really, really lucky, add 10 pounds to him. But he's gonna play outside, you're not gonna see those.
SPEAKER_01So I just I just want to say so. The the guy to me that he compares most favorable favorably to is Upton Stout, who was drafted last year by the uh 49ers. Okay, he ended the year as a top two or three nickel um in the NFL. And basically, you know, he's also a 5'9 corner, he also played mainly outside in college, but again, like his tape was phenomenal. He should not have gone, he wouldn't have gone the third round if he was slightly larger, just like uh D'Angelo Pons. Now, Pons was better in college and he ran a blazing 40 at the at the combine. And uh, my my point being is is two things. The first thing is the Jets will play a lot of a matchup. Um, and moving forward after the season, they drafted a guy in the third round last year, uh Azarya Thomas, who's like 6'3, almost 6'4, ridiculously long arms, and they're just gonna basically match these two guys up with uh whichever team, uh you know, whichever team they're playing, the larger receiver Thomas will get, the smaller receiver. But that's for the future for this season. I really think that even in in nickel uh coverages, you know, teams mix and match with their corners, and basically wherever the smaller, faster guy is gonna be playing, whether that's outside or in the slot, um, Pons is going to end up matching up with him for the time being. I think that uh the the Jets card at nickel is kind of crappy and um stout is gonna beat him out as the third corner. You know, whether you want to call that the nickel or just the nickel packages, that's a different story. All right, fair enough.
SPEAKER_00All right, let's move on to the Giants' next graph pick, which would be wide receiver Malcolm Fields. And I am really excited about this pick. Um, did we end up giving up a pick from next from next year? We did, but am I bothered by that? I am not. We're gonna get a comp pick, at least one, um, in that range, regardless. So we really just kind of gave up on our comp pick, or maybe our original pick still holding on to the compick. So I'm cool with it. Uh, Malachi Fields had one of the best catches last year, this insane moss-like, one-handed catch, which was absolutely phenomenal. Now, he is a contested catch dude, and where he really excels is in the middle of the field. You put that ball in his radius, and let's not forget the dude's 6'4 and has a huge, huge, huge wingspan. You put that ball in his radius, even in a crowded middle of the field, he is gonna come down with that ball. And if if for those who are a little bit more worried about his um route tree ability, you got to go back to his tape in Virginia, where he was, you know, prior, um, you know, the previous year. And he was asked to do more, he excelled in a more extensive route tree, and you're gonna see him really excel at the next level with his ability of what he can do, and he is gonna be a grow great wide receiver, too, for um, you know, for Malik Neighbors, or you know, next to Malik Neighbors, so to speak, and you're almost getting another like tight end out of the mix. So I think he's a great pick. And also, one final thing, then I'll kick it over to you for quick thoughts on him. The cool thing about him is this is that given their insane run game with um with you know both love and price, he wasn't asked to do that much. And it doesn't mean he didn't have the potential again. Going back to his Virginia tape, he's got the potential. They didn't ask him to do much, he didn't need to do much. Do I think he's gonna be an a thousand yard receiver? No, probably not. Certainly not in the beginning, but do I think that he is going to we're gonna see him make crucial and critical. Third down catches, yeah. They go for first downs? Absolutely. Do I think we're gonna get him in the back of the end zone type type touchdown plays? Absolutely. And so, and good luck in the back of the end zone trying to block if you go in 12 personnel. Good luck trying to block likely, Theo Johnson, and Malachi Fields all at the same time. Good luck.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and and I think that that's one of the biggest things that that uh of a takeaway here is that uh given the Rams and then the Niners really like drilling and the and the and the Packers, um get getting the three tight end formation uh sets into like the forefront of what's going on in modern NFL play, that's where I think Malachi Fields, who let's be honest, given given his speed, um, which you can see in the game tape, and then it was just clear and from the combine, um, just doesn't have that kind of speed to really be that kind of outside receiver. But in today's NFL, there's like you said, he's a beast over the middle, and uh he'll be used in in bigger packages. You know, instead of a three-tight end set, you get get to use Malachi Fields, you use him as a big slot, and you use him in the red zone as a rookie in the third round. I think that that's a pretty pretty good outcome for what you're looking for, especially how far down the depth chart he is. You know, the Giants added Mooney and Calvin Austin, already have neighbors, obviously, already have Slayton, already have Hodgins. Uh, they still have Jalen Hyatt who you know who knows what he can do.
SPEAKER_00Um Jalen Hyatt Hyatt this season is gonna be lucky to be on our practice squad. Terrible pick, by the way.
SPEAKER_01Okay, okay. So so again, out of Tennessee, he was like uh a deep threat on the level of uh who was that guy on the Chiefs a few years ago? That was insane, anyways. It doesn't matter, but uh he he is he was a ridiculous deep threat, and I do think that that ability is still in there. Um, so if you could unlock that, and and you know it's not the most uncommon thing for receivers to go elsewhere and get unlocked by a different quarterback, a different coordinator. Um, yeah, but Malachi Fields, yeah, he he is a very, very strong individual, and it's unlikely even in the NFL that many defensive backs are winning one-on-ones with him.
SPEAKER_00Oh no, absolutely not, especially not in like a contested catch, uh, you know, type of a scenario. Yeah, all right, all right. Let's go a little bit more rapid fires so we can uh kind of get a brief touch on all of our remaining picks. So, what I'm gonna do is that we're gonna do 60 seconds on everyone going forward. So let's go ahead, kick us off first, go for it.
SPEAKER_01Okay, so I was not prepared for this, and I do not have the Jets picks in front of me, so I'll have to go off the top of my Darnell Jackson Jr., Florida State defensive tackle was your next pick, Ari. Darrell Jackson Jr., uh defensive tackle, Florida State. Uh, early fourth round pick. The guy is absolutely huge. His uh pad level um is extremely inconsistent. This leads to him being a absolute zero as a pass rusher. Um, can that be changed? Yes, is it likely to change? I'd say not really. For now, he is a huge, huge uh asset in the middle of the uh formation for teams to not want to run there, and that's pretty much Darrell Jackson right now.
SPEAKER_00All right, excellent. So I'm gonna hop on over in the topic of huge human beings. I'm gonna pop on over to our fifth, uh, the fifth pick in the sixth round, also our fifth pick, which was Bobby Jameson Travis, BJT, defensive tackle out of Auburn, 6'3, 328 pounds, and the dude moves a lot quicker than his size um may may dictate. And I'm actually excited for this pick. Is he Dexter Lawrence? No, he is not, but can the guy eat up an absolute big old gap in the you know, in the in the nose tackle position in the middle of our defense? Absolutely. And I think he's gonna get more you know, more playtime than people may think. Um, you know, the just on that, you know, the the Giants, I saw this yesterday on X, it was really funny. They're like, when when we traded away Dexter Lawrence, we lost 340 pounds. So what do we do? And we've pretty much signed five guys with a combined weight of like close to 1500 pounds. And so, yeah, is there gonna be one person to replace Dexter Lawrence? No, probably not, but we're gonna go ahead and see um them do it um kind of by committee. And I do think that BJT does have the potential to be, you know, turned into someone that that you know can plug that run really, really, really well. All right, all right, moving over to your next pick.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so I'm going to save, I'm going to save Cade Klubnick for for the end. I want to talk about him for a bit longer. So I'm gonna jump into the Jets' sixth round pick, which was Inez Cooper. Um I'd like to mention that not only did the Jets draft uh Maui Noah's brother last year, yeah, but now they also have the guy that played next to him uh in college, Inez Cooper. I mean, it's just shocking. First of all, NFL.com had him ranked as their fifth best safety, and they had a fourth round grade on him. Um, and he went in the sixth round and not that early in the sixth round. Uh, the dude can play inside. Okay. If you asked Maui Noah and you said, um, how much did I help you as a tackle being right next to him? I'm sure he'll be like, I I'd always miss having him right next to me anytime I play tackle. Uh, he's the kind of guy, again, is he flashy? Is he going to uh make multiple pro bowls in his NFL career? Probably not. Does he raise the floor of what a team's guard situation can be? Absolutely. And talking about a situation where he could win a guard spot out of camp, and I wouldn't be shocked, and you're talking about a sixth round pick, that's insane value. So Inez Cooper, very happy to have him. He I can see him as a top uh 20 guard by next year. And again, that that's unreal value. He is an absolute anyone who hasn't seen some of his pancakes in the run game, go on to YouTube, search for them. It's insane, it's insane. His his strength is ridiculous. So that is Inez Cooper, and you can go on to my favorite pick from your draft, which is your next pick, Ari. Really? JC Davis. Oh, sorry. I missed uh I missed JC Davis. No.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah. Oh, I'm gonna talk about uh Jack Kelly. I love that dude, but we'll we'll wait till we get there. All right, going on to our second to last pick in the draft, JC Davis, offensive tackle um out of Illinois, 6'4, 322 pounds, a little bit of a liability in the run game, much better at pass pro. Listen, he's not stepping into the um, you know, into the starting lineup. He's certainly not even going to, you know, um push for playing time um probably this season. With that being said, I do think he can be developed more likely into a guard. He's probably maybe like a swing guard, maybe a backup to our backup swing tackle, um, who's Bo, who we drafted last year. But do I think he has potential to be developed? Yeah, absolutely. But I don't think he's going to be an impact player. He may very well be might is he gonna be on the active roster? Probably. Is he gonna get a you know a jersey on game day? Probably not. Is he potentially gonna end up on our practice squad? Could very well be, but good value when all is said and done. And um, I see him eventually being a solid backup, I would say. And if we're really, really lucky, maybe developing into a you know, a you know, strong, um, you know, really like six men on your line type guy, but otherwise, yeah, not much else to say over there. All right, let's move over to VJ Payne, your last pick in the drag. Sorry, see if Kansas State. So, do you know what JC stands for, by the way? Um no, I don't mean I know this, but I forgot it. I I I so that's the thing.
SPEAKER_01I don't think you know this because from everything that I looked into, it's not Jesus' name. It's just I think his name is just JC. Like, that's what I think his name is. I don't see any like anything anywhere that he has a different, you know, that it's literally initials results. I think he's just as opposed to VJ Payne, who has like the normal uh anyways. VJ Payne, uh is it's fascinating because everyone always talks about in the run-up to the NFL draft how uh guys look fast, just like you talked about with Colden, guys look faster than the than they run at the combine, right? And so VJ Payne is one of those guys that like there has to be an opposite. So VJ Payne is one of those guys where he runs a ridiculous, he's like 6'3. He ran, I think, uh 4-3 something, 40. Um, he plays so goddamn slow on tape. It's it's insane. It's insane. What is VJ Payne? Um, he was talked about, by the way, as like a fourth to fifth round pick, and getting him in the seventh round is crazy. He doesn't really show up on tape. You know, there are very serious reasons why he ended up in the seventh round. He still is value in the seventh round. That being said, I do view him uh uh as a future kind of like J-Ron Kurse type player who also went very late in the draft, where he played safety in college, but I think his main role will be guarding that large slot or tight end in three safety sets, which is again becoming very popular in the NFL and will just continue to become more popular with the rise of three tight end uh packages. So that's what I think uh VJ Payne is, a very specific guy in a very specific situation. He'll be like the Jets' fifth safety, uh 10th or 11th uh defensive back. We'll see if they can develop him. No harm, no foul. That's what you get at uh out of the seventh round. So finally, Ari, you can get into Jack Kelly, and then I'll end with uh Key Klubnik.
SPEAKER_00All right, so Jack Kelly, I love this pick. I gotta tell you, you go back and watch this guy's tape, and he's just one of those like old school mean bully linebackers. Like he wears, like you look at his pads, and it looks like he's got no neck. And when you see his sacks, dear lord, watch out for this guy. He looks like he's been shot out of out of a cannon. And um, I know that you know, when he is you just look at his highlights and the way he just lands these vicious, vicious, vicious hits. Um, in terms of comp, and I'm gonna just stay on the Giants, he gives me like Micah McFadden vibes, which is you know a decent comp to have, especially since we drafted him in the sixth round. He is gonna be a beast on special teams. Like, I can already see him possibly even leading the Giants in special team tackles this coming year. So we're gonna see him absolutely truck people on the field. Um, again, most likely in special teams plays, but maybe a bit um in the linebacker game as well. Um, he's got a lot ahead of him on the depth chart in terms of our linebackers. So I don't know how much playing time he's really gonna get at linebacker um, you know, this year. Do I think that he can outplay our sixth round linebacker from last year? Um, Darion, what's his name? Um, I think that's how you pronounce his last name. Could I see him um rising above him on the depth chart? Yeah, absolutely. But given our depth of linebacker ahead of him, he's not gonna get much playing time. But I love this pick. And with the right development, I think that he could be go ahead and have a nice career as a really like just like people are gonna be afraid to get hit by him because he's going to give you some bone-jarring hits. So love the pick. He's a cool dude. I like he's also gonna bring a hell of an attitude to the to the um to the to the field, and I'll say this just in summary. You know, we definitely have um a lot of exciting whites, we are bringing the exciting whites back to football. What why are you giving me that look? I'm just saying is there are many, many, many, many talented players in the NFL. Okay, and in a lot of positions, white guys just don't play up the level, they're not good enough. But it's exciting to see that when you have people like Cam Scanaboo or you have people like Jack Kelly or Ricard, I'm just excited to see them kind of you know bring back that kind of vicious spirit because it gets everybody hyped up. So that was not in any way meant to be anything derogatory or racist, just to be clear, considering the eyebrows that you gave me. All right, for our listeners who cannot see what Ari the faces Ari is making of me, they are very, very, very judgy. All right, Ari, let's go back to you and you'll bring our draft recap to a close with your QB.
SPEAKER_01Go ahead. I just think that there are some things that you just can't say uh publicly in 2026, for better or for worse.
SPEAKER_00That's just Pat McAfee uses the excited What as he pronounces it all the time.
SPEAKER_01You get to be Pat McAfee, you get to be Pat McAfee, you grow up like Pat McAfee. I don't know. I I I don't know. Um, that's just my feelings on the matter. Um, so so if the if anyone comes to get to get like this podcast, like please make sure it's just Ari Lev and I'm safe. Like that's all I'm gonna say. Um, because I I I'm not I don't necessarily condone what was just just said. Uh okay, let's let's get into Kate Klubnik here. Uh speaking of exciting whites. Oh my god, oh my god, oh man. What what what am I gonna do with you, Ari? What am I gonna do?
SPEAKER_00Oh wow, we get film, we get film on this guy.
SPEAKER_01So so yes, yeah, absolutely. Uh I just I I don't understand why that keeps on happening for me, but but I just I just want to break down a couple things and then we can talk. Okay, so this is Cade Klebnik against Bill Belichick. You look here, he looks at one read, he looks at another read, falls out, perfectly placed, right over the middle, goes to his third read, phenomenal. Okay, second play. I want to show, okay. Gets the snap, again, moving pocket, looks for his first read, he sees it's not there, immediately goes and gets the first down, fourth and three, phenomenal. Okay, now I'll explain the reason why I'm showing all of this right after this play. Again, goes first read, goes check down. Beautifully placed. Wide open wide receiver, by the way. Oh, he shook the coverage, but he laid it in there perfectly before he was wide open. If you can tell the ball is out.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01No, no, he definitely just as soon as you see him get one step of separation, the ball is out. Okay, and so now I I'll I'll explain why I'm showing these specific uh things. Okay. Um, Cade Klubnick, and this was apparent to me as well before the draft, and I I literally sat down and watched every single snap that dude took from this past season. And the the rap on him, and especially Kurt Warner put this out there, and uh from his South Carolina game, the rap on Clay uh Cade Klubnick was that if he's if it's not his first read, he panics, and that's not true. And I'll explain what happened. Cade Klubnick had three series of three injuries and missed a game toward the middle of the season. And when he came back, his footwork was all out of whack. He is an extremely technically sound guy, and as soon as that happened, combined with the fact that he had some of the worst receiver drops in the NFL, his game, uh his game footage from those few games just looked horrendous, and that's really what it bore out. And some people, like myself, looked at those specific games, looked at what was happening, and said, Cade Klubnick is a garbage quarterback. That's literally what I thought. After watching him through all of these games, he reminds me, and this is why I wanted to say this for the end uh a lot of Russell Wilson. He reminds me a lot of Russell Wilson, he reminds me a lot of Dak Prescott. Now, I'm not saying that he's going to be those guys, but I'm just saying as quarterbacks go and that there are a lot of reasons for beforehand that they thought that they would be early first round picks like Klubnick going into the season. Some things went slightly wrong during the season, and then they dropped to the fourth round that ended up being much better. I genuinely believe that Cade Klubnick is there. Now, the vast majority, I you know, probably he'll be a very good backup in the NFL for many years. But that being said, I do see something in him that really surprised me. And I think that he's capable of running an NFL offense, which I'm shocked to say. So that that there you have it on Cade Klubnick.
SPEAKER_00All right, so let me ask you this, sorry, on him. All right, so right now, if you look at the Jets QB room, do you potentially you'd mention you know Russell Wilson, and I'm assuming you mean good Russell Wilson back in the day? Uh not uh not not Russell Wilson of of late.
SPEAKER_01Um, but that's the funny part about the Russell Wilson comp is when he was hurt and playing not well, he also looked like Russell Wilson from the past few years, which I thought was very interesting to me.
SPEAKER_00So, do you see first of all? What is his ceiling in your opinion? Is it gonna be do you view his ceiling as being ceiling as Dak Prescott? Wow, okay, and that's a pretty high ceiling. Yeah, and if that's the case, do we see this being another one apropos Dak Prescott, Russell Wilson? Do we suddenly see this being another one of those situations of where you get the OTAs, you get the camp? Clearly, this dude can ball, and even though you've got you know Geno Smith in there, do we suddenly see him becoming the starter? And if so, when what week?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so that that is um it's very interesting to me. And I I think that if I'm right about the injuries uh taking away from what was otherwise a very good season when you look at his numbers, um, I actually think that there, I'd say it's probably a 10% chance, but even at that, it's crazy that he beats out Geno Smith to be the Jets starter week one. That's that's how much I've been convinced that Kade Klubnick can run an NFL offense, which the vast majority of quarterbacks coming out of the draft cannot do, even though they're much more talented than Kate Klubnick. That's what that's what I'm trying to say. I'm not trying to say that Cade Klubnick has, you know, ridiculous arm strength or he's gonna run like Lamar Jackson, none of that. Just the way that he sees coverages, the way that he calls audibles, the way that he controls offenses from the line of scrimmage is well beyond his years and is like so far into like the backup mold that from day one he's already a solid backup, in my opinion. Um, and the more he learns Frank Reich's offense, like I don't know how good Geno Smith can or can't be. I just genuinely can't tell you I see a world in which he's just the Gino of last year and he's just terrible, and the Jets are terrible. I genuinely see it as a possibility. I could see you know Geno Smith surprising and playing a bit like he did two years ago. He was a Pro Bowl quarterback. So um who knows what Geno you're getting? Um, and it'll be very unclear. And basically, I think that there is a much bigger chance than I realized that the Jets won't need to draft a quarterback next year. And that's that's the part that shocked me. I think that there's a real case to be made that toward the second part of the season, uh Klubnik makes a play and gets playing time and surprises enough people, a la Shador Sanders, this year, to uh for the Jets to pause for a second and not take a quarterback, especially if they have you know six, seven wins, six seven, and uh and end up uh you know not having you know the that pristine quarterback pick.
SPEAKER_00Um love your optimism. A little surprised at your optimism, given you know, given uh how you normally view the Jets and their season. Uh, I think you guys. Are more likely than the scenario that you just laid out for us in Unicorn and Rainbow Land. I do believe that you will probably have a terrible season. Aaron Glenn will get fired, and you guys will be selecting a QB, whether it's Moore or Manning or someone else at the top of the first round next year. But hey, we've got a whole season ahead of us, so why not be optimistic? All right, Ari, I'm gonna go ahead and bring us to a close. This was a lot of fun. It was cool to go ahead and do some actual film review, despite the technical difficulties that came along with it. Um, this was a great recap. Um, and I know that we have a lot of Giants and Jets fans who actually, you know, who will really enjoy our breakdown. To our listeners who are more broader NFL fans, well, it's the offseason, so it's okay. Um, but nonetheless, this was a lot of fun, and I really enjoyed doing this. Ari, any parting words before I close this up?
SPEAKER_01Uh I mean, yeah, there's a real world where Frank Reich is coaching the Jets by week 10. Um, and Aaron Glenn has already been fired. So uh, you know, but but but again, I I I just want to say, I'm not saying that this is Cade Klubnick, I'm just saying that I was surprised to see that what they're writing about him really misses the mark. That's what I was basically saying.
SPEAKER_00I hope for you guys, if you fire Aaron Glenn midseason, you do not make Frank Reich your interim head coach.
SPEAKER_01Just wow, no, well, yeah, it's the dawn of the third Reich, Ari. That's basically what I'll say.
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