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The episode opened with fireworks as the NFL delivered massive headlines, with Will Anderson Jr. landing a record breaking extension with the Houston Texans and Dexter Lawrence getting traded from the New York Giants to the Cincinnati Bengals for the 10th pick, instantly shaking up the league, then we jumped into a fast paced first round mock of the NFL Draft trading picks back and forth with bold calls surprise selections and nonstop debate that turned the whole segment into a high energy war room where every pick raised the stakes and made the next decision even tougher. 

SPEAKER_01

Welcome back to another edition of Ari Squared. We are your hosts, Ari Lev and Ari Berkwitz, coming to you live on Sunday, right before the draft. And we do have a very exciting episode coming up today as Ari and I will be going and actually doing a first round mock draft. And in terms of how we're going to kind of pick, what we were kicking around is essentially it's going to be a mix between what we think the team is going to do and in reality, as well as what would Ari and I each in turn um would do as a general manager. Now, before we dive right into that, um, two notes that I want to bring up. Number one, Will Anderson. So Will Anderson gets a three-year contract extension, $150 million, 134 of which are guaranteed. He is now the highest non-QB paid player in the NFL, dwarfing what uh Miles Garrett got. And to me, that's just a little insane. I mean, he's a great player. They did trade up um to pick him number three overall after taking CJ Stroud. But this isn't I get the rationale, pay the guy early. By the time he would be actually due, then he he would probably be worth more. But it is just insane to think that you are now paying a non-QB that kind of money, and that he's making so much significantly more than Miles Garrett, who arguably is the best uh defensive lineman. So that I thought was an interesting note. And then the other one that came up, and that literally happened overnight as we slept here in Israel, was Dexter Lawrence being traded to the Bengals just straight up for a draft pick. Um, it's pretty rare that you see where there isn't some additional draft compensation, maybe a diff an additional pick, maybe a pick going back from the team with the player back to the team that's trading for. Um, very interesting. Um, as a Giants fan, I'll say this. Uh, I'm actually okay with this trade. Um, of course, I'll miss sexy dexy doing our dance, but we also at the same time, we have to think of the following, which is number one, he is definitely coming off of the worst year of his career. His injuries are going up. He will be 29 years old at the start of the season. Um, and we do see for heavier defensive linemen, we do see them kind of deteriorate a lot quicker. And finally, the guy signed a contract two years ago. Last year he made a stink about money, and we went ahead and rewarded him, played around with some of the money, added some more incentives, and he looked unmotivated, and his play spoke as well. And then to turnaround coming off of an off-year, and then again making a stink about money and wanting to be paid. You know, they offered him as from everything I've heard, somewhere in the um in the in the neighborhood of 30 million per year, which especially coming off of a down year was definitely you know very nice payday. And he wants to go all the way up to like 35 or more. So I'm not sad to see him go. I definitely think that we can draft his replacement in the draft. And so just to tie that all up uh in a bow, I I'm okay and happy with this trade. Also, in terms of culture, I think this is a good message to send um to everyone in the organization, which is as much as we appreciate you as a player, you're coming off of a de down here, and like John Harbaugh said in his opening presser, we are looking for guys who love football. And respectfully to Dexter Lawrence, he did not seem to love football as much as we all would have liked last year. So those were just two quick notes of stuff that have happened um over the weekend. Ari, before we dive in, anything on your head to add on either of these players?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I just wanted to ask: do you think that Will Anderson is a top 10 edge in the NFL right now? Top 10? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So you do, you you do. Do you not? I think it's borderline, you know. Like you you think about obviously, like uh, I don't know, Miles Garrett, Aiden Hutchinson, uh Nick Benito, Micah Parsons are Burns, even are that's I was gonna say, but like, and then the second that's like the top, you know, and then the second crew uh here led by Brian Burns. You know, I I think that it's a little closer than you would think. Like, I don't know if I would take Jared Verse, for example, over Will Anderson. Uh you know, they're they're both very, very good players, very young players, but they're definitely in the same uh you know story. And and and look at Brian Byrne's contract when the Giants. I don't know if he signed it with the Giants or or he did, he did.

SPEAKER_01

He we traded for him, and think of fact we only give up a second rounder for him too, which is wild.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and and everyone was like, uh, it's a little bit of an overpay for Brian. And now look at that deal, like that. That is Joe Shane looks like an absolute genius. It's a fun, it's aging so well, and uh, but yeah, that that's basically my only point. So, you know, Will Anderson's on an upward trajectory. Um, I think that you covered it, and we'll we'll see. But this nuts, it's a nuts amount of money.

SPEAKER_01

Also, just one final note on that, like and and to your point of the fact that he's a borderline top 10. Was it really? Is he really like thinking about Miles Garrett got in the what was it 40 and a half million or something a year? I think that's what it was. Yeah, no way that Will Anderson, and again, he hasn't even played that long. There's no way that Will Anderson can be 10 million dollars a year better than Miles Garrett. That's insane.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, just yeah, yeah, it's it's uh it's it's gonna be interesting to watch. I mean, you know, Will Anderson had uh 12 sacks, 20 tackles for loss, 23 uh QB hits last year. These are all numbers uh that put him just inside the top 10 or right outside the top 10, and most important pass rushing metrics. Obviously, you'd have to look at you know, pass rush success rate on PFF, um, which obviously we are blocked out from, uh, not paying for that. And and uh and yeah, but overall overall, you know, you can make an argument that uh I think he's also very young. He is 24, he's not even 25 yet. So, I mean, with the progress that he's made, and obviously, you know, uh, one thing that you could say about um the head coach there in Texas is that he knows a thing or two about uh defense, yeah. So, you know, all things considered, it's definitely a bet on the next three years will be his best three years, and paying him for that. But yeah, this it's always a mix of projection and you know, uh where they're currently at in their career trajectory. So, you know, I'm happy for the guy, but yeah, there's there's there's zero argument to be made that he's top three at his position right now, and he's getting paid as the number one guy, so it's it's pretty crazy.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, I think we've uh both said our piece on that, and uh I'm I'm okay with that. I see that we're on the same page. So Ari, that brings us to our mock draft. It's crazy to think that we're already, you know, actually the week of the draft. It's pretty wild uh to think that we're even doing that. And you know, the you know, the NFL season, off season, whatever it may be, goes by so quickly. And like we blinked and the combine was here, we blinked again and it was free agency, and now we just blinked for a third time and we are already at the NFL draft.

SPEAKER_00

Well, well, in all fairness, we had about six weeks, at least for me living where I do, um, totally upended by the war. And I had I made like zero progress in any regard. So it kind of felt like we were fast forwarding um from like a week before Purim till the end of Pisach. So like that that's like really not felt by me. And then it's like, wait a second, this Thursday is the draft. But yeah, so so yeah, this is this is definitely the time is here to discuss draft. And uh with with that said, why don't we why don't we get started? All right, excellent.

SPEAKER_01

All right, so just to let our listeners know, what we're gonna be doing is is we're gonna be alternating, all right. Um, I'm gonna be doing the odd numbers, Ari is going to be doing the even numbers. Now we do want to make sure that uh we are both picking both first round picks for each of our teams, me, the Giants, and Ari with the Jets. So we're gonna double up in there. Um, and that's why you're going to suddenly hear Ari and I both at different stages doing two picks in a row. And one final caveat to this is that we are doing the picks straight out, we are not mocking any sort of trades or anything like that, and we'll keep it simple. All right, so Ari, you ready? I'm ready. All right, we'll do this. So I am now the Las Vegas Vegas. There we go. That's how you say that word. I'm now the Las Vegas Raiders. I am on the clock, I'm not even gonna waste any time. I am drafting Fernando, Fernando Mendoza, Q Indiana as my first pick in the draft. Shocker, but it is a no-brainer for me. Off I go. So, Ari, let's turn it over to you.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and I I go with Arvel Reese here. I don't really think that it's a question. Um, I think that this is what the Jets will do, and I think that he's also the best player in the draft. Um, obviously, Mendoza being a quarterback uh and the quarterback position's importance, um, adding that in. Mendoza is definitely worth drafting first overall. I'm not making an argument for the Raiders to do anything else. But um Arval Reese is a nice uh not even consolation prize. He's he is going to be uh a special, special player with the blend of athleticism, acumen, the way he plays the game, and he's also super young at only 20 years old. So Ari, I turn it back over to you, Arizona with the third pick in the draft.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, so a lot of options here. And while I do think that there's a chance that they go with the best overall athlete in this draft, which would be running back Jeremiah Love. If I'm looking at my needs and the fact that I don't have my QB in place yet, I'm actually going to go with David Bailey out of Texas Tech, and I'm gonna draft him third overall to the Arizona Cardinals.

SPEAKER_00

Nice, nice. I I I really uh think that there's a very strong possibility we've nailed the top three picks. With that, fourth overall to the Titans. I think they're going Jeremiah Love here. I really think that um uh Stala loves his uh offensive playmakers with uh with Cam Ward already in place. Uh they they could do a lot of things with just Cam Ward. Jeremiah Love. Um, Brian Dable is used to having a very high pick running back in his backfield, going back to the time where he had uh Saquon. And I I just I just see that fit right there, number four for Jeremiah Love. All right, excellent.

SPEAKER_01

And with the number five overall pick, this is a no-brainer, and I really fingers crossed, rub Buddha's belly. I absolutely hope that this is our pick in actuality with the fifth pick in the draft. I select Sonny Styles, linebacker Ohio State for the Giants. I pray to the Lord that this is our actual pick.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah. So this is uh this is definitely where it gets very interesting to me um at number six with Cleveland. Um I think they end up going with Carnell Tate here. This is this is what I think. Um, Ohio, Cleveland, and um they just have an immense need for Carnell Tate. I don't think uh Maui Noah is uh good enough uh to basically if you look at their wide receiver depth chart, um, there's no one even close to as good as Tate. And what they did with their offensive line the offseason, they've pretty much shored up most of their big needs. So I have Carnell Tate going number six overall to the Cleveland Browns. All right, awesome.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, so with the number seven pick in the draft to my division rivals, I'm gonna go with Caleb Downs, safety, Ohio State. I'd like to say, you know, it was definitely, you know, the way I see it is depending on how the draft board plays out, um, for the Giants at number five. If for whatever reason Styles wasn't there, and by the way, just to talk uh talk about that for a second, while I absolutely agree with your pick of Jeremiah Love to them at number four, there's so much noise coming out of the Titans building that Sala wants as Fred Warner and is gonna actually select Sonny Styles. In that event, to me, it would be an absolute no-brainer, and I would take in a heartbeat Caleb Downs as my next uh as my pick in place. I don't even view it as a compensation pick. Um, I do view it as they're 1A, 1B. Um, sad to see it good, sad to see Caleb Downs going to a division rival, but without a doubt, smart pick. It's also a you know, it's where picking meets needs, and that's why I went with Caleb Downs at number seven.

SPEAKER_00

Well, you know, what's interesting to me about Caleb Downs going seven to Washington is definitely um, I think there have been four safeties picked top ten in the last uh 25 years. Uh no, sorry, since Ed Reed, I can't remember if that was 2000 or 99, but since the Ed Reed draft, um, there have been I think four safeties going top 10 in the draft, and this would be the fifth, and it would make three going to the Washington formerly Redskins and now Commanders. They drafted Sean Taylor, top 10. They drafted LaRon Landry top 10, and now this would be Caleb Downs uh top 10. So that would be very interesting. The other two, I think, are Jamal Adams and um Eric Berry. That's that's I think off the top of my head, the whole list. So I love the pick. I think this would be a great pick. I think Caleb Downs is honestly the second to fifth best player in this draft. And to get that kind of caliber guy at seven is is absolutely phenomenal. With that being said, the Saints at number eight, I think uh no-brainer here with Ruben Bain Jr. I think they run that pickup and they love that they're getting the guy who, until the draft process started in earnest, meaning the entire season of college football, Ruben Bain was the number two guy, or at points, number one guy, um, and has slid a bit in the process. And uh he ends up with the Saints as the air apparent to longtime defensive end uh Cameron Jordan.

SPEAKER_01

All right, it's a great pick. And while there were some concerns, and this is what dropped him down, hand size, etc., I absolutely agree with your pick. Um, and I think he'll be a great player for them. So with that, I'm gonna switch on over. And this is one of those places, I'll just throw it out there. I'm gonna be doing two picks back in a row now. I am gonna pick for both the um Chiefs, and then in order to pick for the Giants, um, I will do so as well. So the Chiefs with the number nine pick in the draft, and although I wish we were taking him one spot next, is gonna be Mansur Delane, quarter cornerback out of LSU. It's one of their needs. It's definitely what I feel they had in mind when they went and traded away Trent McDuffie. They knew that they had the number nine pick, they knew that the way any way you cut it with the draft board, the odds of um Mansard Delane not being there at number nine. There's also you know lots of chatter about them possibly moving up and how they were possibly even would switch with um you know trade with the Giants and the Giants would you know trade down. Um, but either way, I am absolutely of the belief that if this is how the board plays out at number nine, they will go ahead and take um Mansur Delay.

SPEAKER_00

So, Ari, just a couple notes before you go on the Giants pick. The first is um, I'm of the opinion that Germaud McCoy is actually the better corner in this year's draft, not by not head and shoulders, more like um when uh Derek Stingley was drafted right before Sauce Gardner. Obviously, it's not the same caliber. Um, and everyone's like, why is Stingley getting drafted right before Sauce? And we look at that now, and it's like, yeah, they're both uh probably the second and third or third and fourth best corners in the NFL, and so that makes a lot more sense. Um, but I do think Jermaud McCoy is the better corner. And I just wanted to ask you, you know, in in a lot of uh conversations around the draft, this number nine is the first pick that um people are mocking Kenyan Sadiq to go off the board. I was curious if that was part of your calculus, taking that into account, and why you end up ended up deciding to go cornerback.

SPEAKER_01

So, no, that wasn't part of my account because as good of uh of a tight end that he is, or potentially could be, um, I think number nine um is a little rich for him, quite frankly. He's not an absolute no-brainer, he's a freak athlete, that's for sure. I don't think that he's let's say on par with Brock Bowers that went to the Raiders um as high as he did a few years back. So, no, he was not part of my thought process at all. Um, I do agree that, you know, um uh Dramad McCoy, yes, I agree, is in a lot of people's uh thoughts, he is right up there, and it's really more of a flavor type of idea, which I think, by the way, is very true. Once we're now getting to the part of the draft, as we're about to exit the top 10, we're starting to get to the part of the draft already, which is crazy given the lack of um of really blue chip um players in this draft, we're starting to get to the point of where the picks we're gonna start making for some people's boards, they're gonna be you know, mid-first rounders. For some people, they're gonna be top of the second round. Like it's really gonna be where do you really see this player fitting in ultimately? And that's what it's gonna come down to. So, in terms of taking Kenya and Sadiq, no, I just I don't see them taking that. They have a need at cornerback. Whether, yes, in theory, could they possibly take um, could they possibly end up taking a a you know McCoy at this spot as opposed to Mansur uh Delaney? Sure, but um I I'm very confident it's gonna be a cornerback, and I'm gonna go with this one. All right, which brings us to pick number 10 for the Giants. So while, especially in light of the Dexter Lawrence trade, which gives us this pick um in the first place, I would certainly be inclined to go defensive tackle here. However, I do believe that it would make more sense. And if again, we were actually doing a full-on draft, I would go with the top defensive tackle at pick 37 when we pick in the second round. And for me, the pick that I'm going with at this point, and I do believe very, very likely, again, if this is how the board plays out, I do believe will be the Giants' actual actual pick. I'm going with Francis Maui Noah tackle out of Miami um at the 10th spot. I do believe that given the fact that our um tackle spots are settled for now, um, and Bo kind of that we drafted last year, Pencil didn't as our swing tackle, they're gonna put Maui Noah in at right guard. He's an instant upgrade of Falele and um everybody else who they kind of signed on those one-year deals. Um, I just think he's a huge upgrade. And then in the future, um, we can either choose to maybe slide about to right tackle um or left tackle, depending. And this sets us up with a plug and play lineman, probably the best lineman in this draft. Um, and so I went with him at pick number 10. I know that some people like Fan O more. I know I I am aware of that. Um, but at the end of the day, I do believe that um again at five, like I printed the Lord that we do not take um Maui Noah at five, but to take him at 10 and then get our defensive tackle to replace Dexter Lawrence at pick 37. Great draft scenario from my perspective.

SPEAKER_00

So so my question to you is if the Chiefs decide to draft Maui Noah, or if they decide to go offensive line and pick spot uh Spencer Fano and Monroe Freeling, even because, like you were saying before, this is the part of the draft where it's basically, you know, Maui Noah is probably my number one tackle on the board, but like between Maui Noah and Spencer Fano, who got knocked down because again, with the arm length, like we were talking about with Ruben Bean, um, you know, people are are saying that he may be a guard, but even if he is a guard, he'll be a phenomenal guard. And Monroe Freeling is actually the opposite, where he's basically a tremendous human being um in stature. Uh, I mean, personally, he could be as well, but uh, I mean just in his physical size and uh he has unbelievable projectability, but he has uh he's not as technically sound as someone like Maui Noah right now. And so I could see any one of these three, like you said about the flavors going first. So, in the event that the Chiefs would have picked one of uh offensive alignment at nine, would you have gone with Monsor Delane at 10? Yes, yes, I would have. So if the Giants have McCoy ranked higher than Delane or at the same level, you could see a reality in which the Giants go corner at number 10, regardless of what the Chiefs do, also. Yes.

SPEAKER_01

I I I absolutely believe the fact that you know if we're looking at what Harba's looking to do, we look at draft history, we look at you know what at the strength of this, uh especially in the first round, we look at the strength of the of this draft, and yeah, I absolutely think that we're going defense, defense in terms of our first two picks. Um, possibly even our first three picks are gonna go defense, defense, defense. The only caveat in there would be again is if Maui Noah is off the board, could they take Fano at 10? Possibly, but I I think they're sooner more inclined that if um now we know is gone and um and and uh Monsieur Delane is there or McCoy, I think they take one of them.

SPEAKER_00

So this is the interesting thing about where the Giants are picking at 10. So basically, um what you just said, you what you started off with, right? Which is that at 37 would be the ideal spot to draft a defensive interior uh lineman. And I just wanted to point out why uh you're saying that. So basically, if you look at the rankings for the top three defensive interior linemen, they're all you know 28 to 33. So that being said, so first of all, you don't want to draft one of these guys at 10. That's that's a crazy. Absolutely, but on this at the same time, uh the Giants may miss out even on Christian Miller. And I don't really agree with the again, these are just PFF's rankings. There's a guy named Caleb Proctor, who I think will be uh in this top three group and will go ahead of Christian Miller. Um, but he's definitely in that top five group, even though PFF has him a little bit further down. There's a good chance that all five of those guys are not available at 37, and that's a big risk. And what you were saying before with uh drafting offensive line and corner, I don't know if it'll be possible for the Giants, but I think that they definitely look to move down a few spots from 10 in order to uh end up with whichever offensive lineman or corner, uh, you know, considering that you have five guys pretty much grouped together and would look to trade up from 37. So they'd end up getting an offensive lineman or a corner with their second first round pick, and then may even get you know trade back into the first round or maybe very early in the second round in order to make sure that they get one of the top five defensive tackles in the draft. That that's just my thinking here. What do you think?

SPEAKER_01

Listen, I I I'm with you, and I'll and I'll say this, and again, for the sake of this mock draft, we were not doing any sort of trades. I believe that there is a very good chance, and again, it would have to be the right team who wants to move up, but I absolutely believe that the Giants would, if it's not too far down, I think the Giants would trade out of the 10 spot and then still be able to get Maui Noah or McCoy or Delane and or Fano even, and not take them at 10. And that way, with whatever they pick up, because also let's not forget, because of the Jackson Dark trade, the Giants do not have um a third round pick. And given the fact that the real strength and depth in this draft is second round, third round, so I would definitely think that they'd be looking to make a move in order to acquire a third-round pick. So they're not gonna leave it up to chance, they are gonna walk out of the first two rounds with a defensive tackle to replace Dexter Lawrence. Um, but would it surprise me at all if they traded out of spot 10? Um, not too far down, but did trade out? Yeah, 100%.

SPEAKER_00

There's no question. And with that, uh, the 11th pick to the Dolphins. I have the Dolphins getting Makai Lemon. That's who I have the Dolphins picking. I think that their uh receiving talent is uh probably worst in the NFL. And uh Mikai Lemon would immediately become their number one receiver. And uh they they they look pretty good. All of a sudden you have Mikhail Lemon and Malik Willis throwing to him, and um they picked up another receiver who would go from number one to number two. I'm I'm blanking on who it was. Um, that's the beginnings of an interesting offense, not anything too uh incredible, but definitely interesting. And I think Mikhail Lemon is uh a very interesting player.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, by the way, I I like your pick and I agree with your thought on it. And a lot of people actually do have Mikhail Lemon as a better wide receiver over uh Carnell Tate. Um, and yeah, there's no question. Look, we've spoken a lot about um you know about me talking about them signing um their QB in the offseason, right? From uh, you know, Malik Willis from the Packers. And yeah, especially after they traded away Waddle, like they need somebody. So this is this is this is definitely a a good you know a good spot to start with, and I agree with your pick. All right, moving along at the 12th spot, and I'll just say this before I make my pick for Dallas. I believe that they are going to trade up. Um, I believe that we're going to see them trade up to number six, up to um to switch out with the Browns, and they're gonna draft whoever is left on the board between Sonny Styles and Caleb Downs. I do believe that they're gonna leapfrog Washington to get that player, with the Giants having already taken that. But what can totally take, throw this in in the like really turn this all around, would be if um, depending on what happens with David Bailey and Arvell Reese, if one of them, because Jeremiah Love is taken, if one of them falls out of the top three, there's gonna be a scramble to get up to pick four or pick five to then go up and get the other one. So there's so much, like I think, and certainly from you know, memory that I have, I don't think there's ever been a draft with more question marks and how easily one player falling out of the top three is going to throw everybody's draft boards absolutely into chaos, um, because people are going to be trying to move up. So I do believe that they're going to go ahead and um and trade up. But again, since we're not doing trades, um, they are going to, in my opinion, draft Jramond McCoy, cornerback Tennessee with this spot, but it's Jerry Jones, so could he have just as easily take Kenyon Sadiq? Sure. But um, or or who knows what else?

SPEAKER_00

But I I just have this feeling that the Cowboys are drafting if they if they do pick at 12 that they're drafting Jordan Tyson. I just have this feeling. He feels like such a Cowboys player to me.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but then and what are you doing with Pickens in that case, though?

SPEAKER_00

First of all, um, you know, who knows if Pickens is actually gonna play on his tag? That's true. That's true. And then beside for this gives them leverage against him if they do this move. First of all, for sure. And and beside for that, I mean, what's the downside of having Jordan Tyson, CeeDee Lamb, and Pickens, who each one of them has plenty of history playing in the slot? That is just a phenomenal receiving group that you may have for one year, and then you just let Pickens walk, and you're all set up for it. So I I I I don't see it as like a big uh issue with the roster management. And I just feel like Jordan Tyson, okay, uh out of out of Tate and Lemon, Jordan Tyson has the highest ceiling out of any receiving prospect in this draft. He just has nagging injuries that have really sidetracked him, which to me is a huge deal. And to me, if he's available to the Jets at 16, I'm passing. I do not want to deal with that receive. But there are some teams that look at potential and they're like, wow, this guy, his potential, he could be, you know, like one of those, you know, he could be like Chad Ochocinko. It's like, who are you kidding me? You're passing at on that at number 12. So I think that Jerry Jones gets obsessed with those kinds of things. And I I I see him uh, you know, going, I don't know, I have that feeling that he's gonna be a cowboy if they're at number 12.

SPEAKER_01

Listen, you're absolutely right. And the point is, you remove injuries for a second, he may actually just be better than both Lemon and Tate. Oh, if you remove injuries, he's a top five pick. So there you go. Now, of course, you can't remove injuries because they happen, but look, you also do see some players who had all those like injury question marks in in college, and then all of a sudden go to the NFL and they're healthy. Exactly. You've also seen the opposite where it's like absolutely never misses a game in college. You draft him, and the guy tears his ACL on the first day of like OTAs in a non-contact move.

SPEAKER_00

So absolutely, absolutely. So now up to the Rams. This is the first one that I have like major questions about. Um, because on the one hand, um, I have a feeling again, just like Jordan Tyson to the Cowboys, I have a very strong feeling what they're going to do. That being said, they really have a need at tackle, and it's gonna be very hard to pass up on Spencer Fano and Monroe Freeling. But that being said, I just have this feeling that they're drafting Kenyan Sadiq at 13. I think that he's exactly the kind of toy that Sean McVeigh likes to play with in the shower. No, uh, that Sean McVeigh likes to play with. And um, I I think that he's gonna be hard pressed to pass up a, especially with the news with Puka Nakua. Um, and who knows what's gonna end up happening with that, getting someone like Kenyan Sadiq, who he could literally move all around the field in the backfield slot, wide, everything. And he could be a very insane chess piece for the Rams. So that's why I have a 13.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, and with the 14th pick in the draft, um, I'm going with Spencer Fono, tackle out of Utah to the Baltimore Ravens. Um, it's a little rich to go with center, and I don't think we have a center that would be worth that. And they do need a replacement for Tyler Lindenbaum. They do also have a needed guard, and while I know that Fono is probably the best actual tackle in the league, uh sorry, on the league in this draft, big correction there. Um, I do believe that they'll probably kick him over to one of the guard spots just to start off. Um, and I think he would make a great um guard. A lot of the people do project him as a guard regardless, anyway, in the NFL. So I think that this is a great value pick for them at 14, and that's why I went with Spencer Fano um for for the Ravens. Now, Ari, you're going to take picks both 15 and 16, so that you can go ahead and draft again for your Jets, and then for the rest of the way, we will be back alternating with me doing odds and you doing evens. So, Ari, you are on the clock for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, and um, I just wanted to note about Spencer Fano and what you were saying. Um, is that Spencer Fono in the draft process has been taking a lot of reps at center, yeah. So that's also noteworthy here. I just wanted to add that in. Um, the Buccaneers, I mean, I have a bit of insight into what uh Tod Bowles likes, and this is again one of the very interesting points in the draft. So um, I just want to pull up Edge here, okay, and we'll see that there's a key Mesador, Keldrick Fox, Cassius Howell, TJ Parker, and I have the Buccaneers going with Zion Young here at 15. Okay, and based off of the the rankings and everything, it doesn't make sense, but um Zion Young, I think, is the next best edge in this year's draft. He fits the Buccaneers system to a T. Um, he's exactly the kind of prototype of uh who is that guy who went to Temple? He was on the Eagles and then the Jets traded for him. He was on the Panthers before that, drafted by the Panthers on the Buccaneers last year. Um an edge Hassan Reddick. Yes. Okay, he gives me Hassan Reddick vibes, and I think that he's that kind of disruptor. And my pick there is Zion Young, um, above of the higher ranked uh edge guys, and then for the Jets, I am going with uh Olay Vavega Iowane, also known as Vega Ioane, um, who not only is a guard, and by the way, I could see him going 14 to the Ravens or 15 to the Buccaneers as well. Um, and Iowane to me is a top seven player in this draft, top eight player in this draft. I think he is an immediate uh uh borderline all pro and will be a top five guard in the NFL for years. And to get that kind of player at 16 is a steal, just like we said about um for Fernando Mendoza going one because of his positional uh value. It's the exact opposite here for a guard. And and just explain briefly is that the bonus of drafting a player in the first round is that you get their fifth-year option. Okay, that option, the amount of money that you pay them is very similar to um the franchise tag and is based off of their position that they play. Therefore, all offensive linemen are grouped together, and no one until Linderbaum just signed with the Raiders, no one gives interior linemen the same amount as tackles. Now, will that change now because of Linderbram? We will see. But bottom line is you're drafting a guy as who's a guard or a center, you're basically drafting them for four years as opposed to most other positions. You're drafting them for six years, including the franchise tag. So that's a very serious difference. Um, and just based off of that, guards will fall and can fall to the range that again, Linderbaum fell when he was drafted, uh, also somewhere between 14 and 18 um to the Ravens. So with that being said, I believe that you're on the clock now, Ari.

SPEAKER_01

All right, before I move on to my pick for the line to 17, um, given the fact that you just did a pick for the Jets, so I have I have two questions for you. First question is would you, if there was a team who wanted to move up, would you move out of the 16th spot and acquire more picks?

SPEAKER_00

No, no, unless it's uh picks of next year's draft, which I doubt is gonna happen.

SPEAKER_01

No, by the way, the caveat on any trade, and this is worth mentioning, yes, and and and it was it it is abundantly clear, everybody knows that next year's draft is literally going to be like a generational draft across the board, and nobody, and I mean nobody who hasn't already done it, nobody is giving up picks for 2027. So we're gonna see, unless you're talking about maybe like six or seventh round draft picks next year, nobody is going to be giving up 2027 draft picks in any scenario.

SPEAKER_00

So I absolutely wouldn't say any scenario, I think sixth or seventh is a little bit further uh down, but yeah, it's it's going to be especially this year's draft is more of like round two to five. Yeah, so draft picks will come into play for next year in those rounds, but it's good. I would be very surprised to see someone trade a first round pick uh for next year. So that being said, no, I don't see a scenario. I see a scenario, but I don't see it as likely if Iowane is on the board, uh for the Jets to uh trade down uh very far. And and like what would they be getting? Like a a second, that'll be a little bit too much. A third, maybe that's not worth it already. So, you know, it's it's uh it's a tricky spot here. Um, it depends. I mean, again, like it depends if some specific team really, really wants a specific player, you know, the cowboys wanted to move up to 16 to 20, and they would give up a second round pick. I don't think so.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, and second question for you would be the following: would you um pick Ty Simpson at the spot?

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely not. I don't think Ty Simpson is a first round quarterback. I also don't think that he's my second overall quarterback in this year's draft. So, with all that being said, I personally would not draft Ty Simpson at 16. I wouldn't draft him at 30. So, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, all right. Well, so with that being said, it's my turn again. So I'm gonna go with for the Lions at pick 17. You're already hovering over because you know we're all I'm gonna go with Monroe Freeling, a tackle out of Georgia. They lost Decker. Um, they need to sharp that um O-line, and they need it in order to really play the type of football and style football that they want to play. So that's a no-brainer pick for them. And if this is actually how it plays out, they will be very, very, very happy getting Freeling at pick 17.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely. And uh next, um, you know, the I I want to go Dylan Theneman here to the Vikings. Um, I think the Vikings have a little bit of PTSD from drafting Louis Cane in the first round of safety out of Georgia a few years ago. Um, I don't I hope that doesn't stop them from drafting the best player on the board here at a position of need. Um, that's Dylan Theneman to the Vikings. A sick defense, um, with uh probably the only weak spot is Harrison Smith aging. And so that does a lot to take care of that.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, with the 19th pick in the draft. So this is this is where it gets interesting, right? Is 19 given the injury history, is it still too risky to take Jordan Tyson? And because on one hand you say to yourself, Well, the talent do I really pass? Meaning you get to a point in every year's draft where you say injury history or not, I uh I'm gonna take the risk because there's just like if I can keep him healthy and I believe in my trainers and my doctors, you know, as long as they didn't give me the red medical sticker on this player, I gotta pull the trigger on him. So yeah, you gotta get Bryce Young another weapon. I don't see how at this point they they don't pull the trigger on this. So I'm gonna go Jordan Tyson, wide receiver, Arizona State at 19 to the Panthers, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And and pairing him with Ted McMillan for Bryce Young would be sick. Unbelievable, really unbelievable. That that could really take their offense and into uh uh an elite uh level of play, and that that would just be super exciting for Carolina.

SPEAKER_01

But just to put this out there, a a possible pick that they might go with at that spot might be um Eli Stour's tight end, um, who a lot of people actually have all things considered, they think he might be better than Kenyan Sadiq. So I could think I could see it possible that they would go with um him in that spot, but most people haven't. graded out in the second round. But either way, again, we're absolutely at this point now that we've we're now in the 20s of this draft, you're gonna have people who any picks going forward could easily go here or go in the second round or possibly even in the third round. And it really comes down to a lot of flavor, what you're looking for, what you believe you can develop and everything like that. So all right, over to you, Cowboys at pick 20.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so this this is definitely a very interesting um spot. Uh I personally have it uh between three different guys and I'm really unsure uh what the Cowboys would do here. Uh on the one hand I think that CJ Allen is like such a Dallas Cowboys kind of player. Oh yeah. On the other hand like I think Avian Terrell is uh so underrated because he's undersized and like thought of as more of a nickel and I just have the I just have it him as too good at too much of an important position at a position that they could really use um passing up on him. And then additionally Emmanuel McNeil Warren would be a really nice fit here as well. So I have Avian Tyrrell but it's it was it was the one of the tougher picks so far in this uh in this mock.

SPEAKER_01

Absolutely and you know interestingly enough you know Tyrrell as much as he's of smaller stature he plays the outside quite well he actually doesn't play that much slot and the truth is is that he would probably fare better on the outside regardless just simply because if you put him in the middle he's going up against tight ends and running backs that will destroy him um yes is he going to have a taller task no pun intended going up against taller wide receivers when he's playing the outside sure but I actually do think that he's ultimately going to play as a outside corner um and you know we we can see you know cordell flot you know who's you know ultimately didn't re-sign with the giants cordell flot when all said and done um ended up being a um ended up being a a um a great outside corner and even though he's smaller too he's like five nine so yeah I do agree with the pick and um and I do think though that he will actually play outside.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah and and and you know it's one of these funny things also uh uh stout um from the Niners was the same thing last year he went in the second late second or third round just because of his size and you know you watch guys like Avian Terrell play and you see them like if they were an inch or two inches taller they'd literally be considered top 12 top 15 definitely in the same range as McCoy and Monsieur and just for that to be knocked down I think that you know you're in a great spot picking that kind of player at 20 I agree.

SPEAKER_01

All right with the 21st pick I I'm going back and forth it's between two tackles so two tackles tackles yes really yes and so um my my um my uh um my debate was really between going with either Blake Miller or with Caden Proctor and I'm really on the fence of the two of them I'm ultimately going to go with Caden Proctor just because to me he just feels like so much more of a of a Pittsburgh Steelers. Now yes this isn't this is no longer the Mike Tomlin Pit the Pittsburgh Steelers but I think especially if you are bringing back um you're bringing back Aaron Rodgers which is probably what we're looking at or you possibly you know take Ty Simpson in the second round maybe even trade back to the end of the first to take him which a lot of people are suggesting may happen and you need to shore up you need to keep him upright whether it's him or Rodgers or anybody playing that position and because of that I I do think that they're gonna go with a tackle at this pick and Caden Proctor is a very very large man and if you know what to actually do with him he's gonna be a hell of a hell of a um you know hell of a lineman and also again you're coming out of Alabama you know what it is to play in big games you know what it is to play in front of big crowds he'll be able to handle the pressure of you know playing for the Steelers so that's why ultimately with Ken Proctor tackle out of Alabama okay wow I'm shocked I thought that they were going to go with a different uh Alabama player um I'm curious who have you just as you said specifically Alabama who would you have gone with that that's fine oh no I just I think the Steelers are going to trade uh to draft uh Ty Simpson yes that that is a possibility as well um but I I gotta tell you like if you look historically the the taking these one year starters out of university and trying to get them to play instantly which is look if you knew for a fact right and maybe they do if you know for a fact that Aaron Rodgers is coming back and you have Aaron Rodgers for a year and Ty Simpson can sit behind him for a year yes they do take Ty Simpson in this spot I'm with that's what I think is going to happen. That's what I think is going to happen but they're also going to let Aaron Rodgers meaning like so now without knowing that you are for sure getting Aaron Rodgers back and Ty Simpson won't have to start right away I think they're still got the whole Kenny Pickett right and you know Pickett was the 20th pick in the draft he would be Ty Simpson would be the 21st pick in the draft I just think that there's too much of that hanging over their heads without a guarantee from Aaron Rodgers and Aaron Rodgers is too all over the place even behind closed doors I don't know I I I ultimately went with the lineman as opposed to um Ty Simpson although again you're absolutely right it could have just as easily been Ty Simpson's all right so with that um going with Omar Cooper Jr.

SPEAKER_00

22nd uh to the Chargers and uh why not Emmanuel McNeil Warren for that I just don't I don't see as big of a need at safety and I think that they're going to want to like they basically uh Omar Cooper is a slot um he played a lot of slot in Indiana and um slot isn't he big slot he's BS yeah exactly and uh and I think that like the chargers really need offensive line help but this is not the best spot uh to draft uh uh interior lineman so I think they'd look to trade down and then end up being like you know what Omar Cooper at 22nd is a really good pick and would be fantastic on offense with Omarion Hampton Ladd McConkey Quentin Johnston and Aronday Gadston I think they take it that and run with it so that that's that is my call for the the chargers but um it's it's tough they could even go CJ Allen you know but this is really a great spot to get pass rushing and they do not need pass rushing so you know it wouldn't be shocking if they drafted a pass rusher here because uh Khalil Mack is on the older side that being said they did use one of their last two first round picks on Thule Tui Palotu and I don't think they're gonna go back to the well once again with Mac still on the team.

SPEAKER_01

All right with the 23rd pick in the draft for the Philadelphia Eagles so given their affinity for linebackers from Georgia um it would be very easy to think and they may end up taking CJ Allen here but it's less of a need when all is said and done what they do need a lot more would either be edge or a safety. And so I'm really on the fence between taking a key mesador here or taking the aforementioned Emmanuel McNeil Warren. Ultimately I do think that they go with line because they like to feast and um you know you know have great defensive line which is usually their strength well yes do they need a safety but we've seen historically they can plug and play those one year contract type safeties they love their line they love their D-line so yeah I'm going a key Mesador which some say actually was was underutilized in Miami given Bain and may actually be better than Bain.

SPEAKER_00

So yes so with that especially with the 23rd pick this pick's got how he Roseman all over it so I think that if he is really still on the board at this point it's a no-brainer um how Roseman runs up to the podium and goes ahead and takes a key Mesador 23rd overall so yeah so the old I think Mesador is such a an Eagles player yeah um I'll give you the one contra okay so historically speaking the Eagles don't usually select older players very early and Mesador is I think already 25 years old yes and they like to go more projectable early and then uh uh late plug and play you know mid-round guys who can come and immediately help so I have like a suspicion that maybe he goes all like two Howie Roseman and then he drafts Kaldrick Falk who's all projectability and literally the exact opposite of Mesador but yeah I I think that it's uh one of those two guys here um and I I think uh you're you're very happy if you are the Eagles getting a key mesador there.

SPEAKER_01

And also I'll tell you that given the fact that he can start on that line right away okay so big deal. So he's 25 years old now you play him out with his fifth year option you get him till he's you know till he's 30 and you know what you probably don't even re-sign him to a contract at that point or you do something team friendly. So you get essentially get the height of this dude's career on his rookie contract and you move on.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah so the reason why people don't like older players in the first round is not because of that it's because basically what they think is that they've mastered the college game as opposed to uh and they don't have projectability. So basically they're already physically already um mature and that's why they're so much better at the college game and not because they're actually actually learning anything. If if you think about it like when you're a 25 year old going up against the 18 19 year olds you're just much more physically um capable of beating them just because you're 25 and that's basically what teams uh shy away from specific teams at some points um 24 to the Browns this is also a very interesting one um I have a feeling that they may really double dip here at uh a wide receiver but I also think they just can't pass up on being able to pair Keldrick Falk with Miles Garrett and you know letting Keldrick Falk take as much time as he needs to develop they're kind of fine there. But in this year's draft and with the second pick I just I just see it and I'm just like you know what let's roll the dice on having two freaks on the defensive line that can completely take over football games like honestly and and you're talking about they drafted uh that uh they defensive tackle last year or two years ago out of Michigan um blanking on his name but he's a phenomenal player going into his second year and and it it at this time with without you know John Harbaugh and Mike Tomlin in this division um if Shador Sanders can be good which they're banking on and therefore they're not going to be picking a quarterback Deshaun Watson who is the projected starter as things absolutely if one of those two guys can pull it together if they could have the best defensive line in football who knows maybe they find themselves on the cusp of the playoffs.

SPEAKER_01

All right with the and also by the way just one more note on that you are talking about the AFC North those games are always like dragging out nine to six type wins like and yeah to get a player like that to shore up a pretty scary defensive line already watch out and like if you're double teaming miles garrett that frees fall cup like exactly it's a pretty and he's he's already a stout uh uh run defender he's just very raw because he's 20 um and he doesn't have as many pass rushing moves so it's just gonna be a matter of developing this guy all right with the 25th pick to the bears um while there would be a a temptation to take cj allen to kind of partially although they've replaced him already replace uh Kramen Edwards who went to my Giants um I do think that you know I could see this has Ben Johnson written all over it in terms of the type of player he is so they're gonna go ahead and select Emmanuel McNeil Warren safety out of Toledo I think that's a pretty pretty done deal pick from that perspective.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah I I I hear that and um to the to the uh bills um you know I really think that this is you know interesting before they drafted uh before they draft before they traded for um DJ Moore I thought that case concepcion is yeah the perfect guy for that team they're kind of the same uh style of player so uh but I do think that they're going to draft a wide receiver again like get add another wide receiver so it'll just be Denzel Boston um who I don't think is as good as Casey Concepcion but having both kinds of guys on your team and if they get anything ever from Keon Coleman that will just you know add on and that so that's what I have them doing. On to you with San Francisco Ari.

SPEAKER_01

So I think that it would be at this point his value is too rich. I don't see how you don't go with CJ Allen did I think that maybe they might go with how at this spot the um edge from Texas AM sure but I think um teams would be pretty surprised to see that Allen has fallen all this way down and so I'm going CJ Allen linebacker Georgia with the 27th pick to the San Francisco 49ers how do you see him coexisting with Warner I see him learn either play next to the start which is probably where he would what better than to draft a position that you're so rich at and where you know either a it's a Fred Warner successor whenever Fred Warner starts playing we have seen Fred Warner it happened this past season he went down with injury so you have somebody who a um can succeed him b if he goes down with injury replacement quite frankly if Fred Warner is not fully back and ready to go beginning of the season by drafting CJ Allen who should be able to start right away you take the pressure off of even rushing him back if Fred Warner is not back.

SPEAKER_00

So I feel like this makes too much sense for the 49ers not to take this so Ari uh do you know um if the Texans signed a running back in the offseason I'm blanking on if they did you know what let me look that up for you if they did it wasn't anybody who who really like stood out because I think it was someone that I found very interesting from a previous draft um but it wasn't like anything too serious.

SPEAKER_01

I just I'm totally blanking so let me let me check that for you but yes I do think that they're probably going running back in this spot however look history has proven that you can get really good running backs later on I mean the Giants just did it this past year with with um with with uh cam scatabou in the fourth round so that happens every year um and and by the way the the oh they're not going running back yes we should have remembered this they traded for David Montgomery yeah they they traded for David Montgomery I don't think that that precludes them from drafting a running back as not not in the first round dude no i i i don't agree i i genuinely don't agree um i think that jaderian price uh is the kind of player that could make it at exactly at this spot um that being said i specifically think that um the miko ryans will like caleb banks and take him at this spot um he could have also by the way just as easily he could just as easily knowing you know who he is he could just as easily go with uh caden mcdonald at that spot i hope that caden mcdonald's on the board where the giants pick at 37 and i would love to pick him uh he won't be he won't be there at 37 i know he won't be but in this magical unicorn and rainbow scenario like we have with our current draft board yeah i would i would be uh i would feel the need to go ahead um and get in there all right now the chiefs are back on the clock at pick uh 29 knowing the chiefs i would say is there's a pretty decent chance that they um trade out of the spot not too far out but this is like one of those spots where teams are kind of like ooh like maybe somebody really has an affinity for like caden mcdonald and they're like we're not he's not gonna last into our pick into the second round so we're gonna go ahead and and do that um if they stay in the spot I think they're gonna go with CS Howell edge at a Texas AM it fits right into the spot um and I think they take him very interesting i i personally uh totally understand that but I think they'd uh draft uh case concepcion here oh maybe because his name is you're right you're should we undo the pick and redo it can we I think so yes okay yeah the pick sorry you you are absolutely right I don't even know why I banked that yeah oh you're absolutely right if if he's still if KC Concepcion is still there oh yeah that's a no-brainer you're absolutely case to cc you're right you're right you're right yes KC and no no absolutely he would be such a good pick for them at that spot and it'd be perfect value and yeah yeah yeah you're you're thank you for that correction are you're absolutely spot on definitely the way they're gonna go i'm glad I'm glad we agree um I have no idea uh what to do here for the dolphins at 30 honestly like uh i'm saying honestly um you want to go blank miller and play him a guard in theory i'm saying uh what what for they they drafted they signed a free agent guard and they drafted uh and they drafted a guard last year um they have their tackles figured out for the next few years i i don't see you know you could have them going you know like honestly out of wide receiver again exactly out of everything you could think wide receiver again you could think of uh uh going um with uh with with what's his name uh elas i would go eli stowers at the you could even make the claim that like this would be a great spot for for ty simpson um i yeah just having just signed malik willis i don't see them going with that move i do think that we could see them go eli stowers i think yeah that that would be a good move yeah so what are you going with are so so yeah so and and then i i think that uh uh the one thing that they kind of have you know down is safety so i don't think they're going safety here uh yeah let's just make it um let's make it elise stowers let's just do it okay let's just do it i have no idea what's gonna happen in that spot like which means that there's gonna be a trade that that's what it means listen i do think we're gonna see some activity both at the end of the first where you usually do and then beginning of the second we're gonna see a lot of activity in terms of trade and stuff happening there um and i do think there's gonna be more trades overall as we see again just moving around assets from this year not sacrificing next year's picks but there's gonna be movement because this is such again we said this a few times already but this is such a flavor draft that I I don't doubt that that we're gonna see a lot of movement um from that perspective all right with the 31st pick in the draft I'm taking Blake Miller tackle Clemson um for the Pats it's a need they need more help on that defensive line that was abundantly clear in the Super Bowl and in the in the playoff run is a general thing so I think they go ahead and take Blake Miller nice and with the last pick in the first round I mean I have a thought to go Cassius how well um you know what I'm just gonna go Cassius howl yeah I think by the way that that has a very McDonald type um you know feel to it um oh I'm curious to see how did pf think we did on our draft Ari I'm curious let's see one second I just let's see we got where's the

SPEAKER_00

Greed. I don't scroll down maybe. No, we don't get a grade.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, because we're on the tree plan and it's free.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01

I wouldn't, you know what? Are you downloaded? It would be very interesting to see um how many of these we actually get right. So just it'd be cool to kind of download and keep just for our point and reference. Um, but you know, look, I'm very happy with what we did here. I do think that there's a lot of reality to to what we see here. Obviously, again, we did not account for trades, which is totally gonna spin this um on its head. If Jeremiah Love or Sonny Styles, um, or no, sorry, if if yeah, sorry, if Jeremiah Love or Sonny Styles go two or three and it knocks Arvell Reese or David Bailey out of the top three spots, there's gonna be a flurry to go up. Jerry Jones is gonna be sitting there going, Here, I'll give you next year's pick two, and like we're gonna see him like salivating and and making a move.

SPEAKER_00

The best part about that is that they don't have their next their first round pick next year. Oh, right, yeah, yeah. The Jets already have three first round picks next year. The Colts and the Cowboys first round pick is the Jets picks as well. Um, so it's gonna be very interesting. The that you the Ty Simpson thing that we covered at the end of the first, yeah, and then the what the Cardinals do at number three. I mean, the obvious move is David Bailey. Uh, sorry, the obvious move is that whichever one of the two guys the Jets don't pick at number two, yes, and then it to to go with a wild card, which would still make a ton of sense, is Sonny Styles. Yeah, anything else would be lunacy, in my opinion, but it's the Arizona Cardinals who they hired a lunacy decision head coach and a lunacy decision offensive coordinator, so who really knows?

SPEAKER_01

They may and they may end up for that reason, they may end up taking Jeremiah Love. And now if you're sitting there and and one of Arvell Reese or David Bailey is still sitting there, you know the crazy thing is is that as much as I'm thinking for the Giants of five, Sonny Styles or Caleb Downs, there is entirely a possibility that if the if the um if the Cardinals actually go with Jeremiah Love and the Titans go with Sonny Styles, who a lot of voices are now saying is gonna be their pick, the Giants could potentially end up with either Rvell Reese or David Bailey at number five, which would be wild.

SPEAKER_00

Well, well, it just speaks to the fact that honestly, uh for between Arvell Reese and Sonny Styles, and I would throw in Caleb Downs, um they're all kind of uh uh within within spitting distance of each other rankings-wise 100. You you can make the claim. I personally have it, Arvel Reese, um, and then Sonny Styles, Jeremiah Love, and then David Bailey. But like, you know, you you have it in any which way that you have it. I and and therefore I I think that the Cardinals are going to draft uh Sonny Styles three. Um, but also imagine a world in which they pull a Raiders from Mike Mayok and John Gruden's first draft, where they drafted um that defensive end out of Clemson number four overrell.

SPEAKER_01

I think his name is Leland Pharrell. Sorry, I think of Will Farrell, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

It's okay, it's close enough, but yeah, and and um it mess it changed everyone's draft boards because everyone had him going, you know, 25 to 35. Imagine if they went Ty Simpson third overall. That would be insane, yeah. Insane, yeah. But would it be think of it this way would it be crazier than hiring Mike LaFleur and um uh Nathaniel Hackett to run your offense?

SPEAKER_01

No, no, no, okay. It wouldn't, and would be as insane as um, you know, the Colts taking Anthony Richardson at four. Yeah, I don't think Ty Simpson at three is a bigger that much bigger of a reach.

SPEAKER_00

In fact, he might be a better pick. Yes, absolutely. It would be much similar, very similar to Daniel Joe to the Giants when he was probably going early as you know, late teens, um, and some people had him early second round, and the Giants picked him at that sixth overall.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you know, these things happen, these things happen, they happen every year, so it'll be interesting to see. All right, Ari, this was a lot of fun. I really enjoyed doing this mock draft with you. Um, it'll be very interesting to see on our next episode. Um, when we will recap the draft, of course. We'll see how many picks we got right, how many picks we didn't get right, and it'll just be cool overall to see it. So, Ari, I wish you an exciting draft week ahead. I'm certainly very, very excited. Um, I'm giving a shout out to my daughter Avigo, who will be attending the Giants draft party, which this year, because of the World Cup, is not going to be on site for the Giants. It's gonna be in Hudson Yards in the city. So it's supposed to be a lot of fun, and one of the things they're even doing with the chance to win a ticket to a home game, they are going to be having a Jackson Dart Cam Scanaboo look-alike costume dress-up or like impersonation contest with the winner getting um home free home tickets for a home game at some point this year. So I think that'll be super excited, and I'm super excited for her. So, with that, I will bring this episode to a close. So, thank you for joining us again for another episode of Ari Squared. You can find us on Spotify. Please leave us a five-star review. Please help us grow the Ari Squared community by sharing this with your friends, family, and anybody else who loves the NFL as much as we do. So, on behalf of Ari and myself, we wish you all an enjoyable week ahead. Happy draft, everyone, and let's keep it real. Peace. We out.